So It Goes Podcast (Book Club Meeting 2)

Matthew, Deja, Katie, Zahira, Leah
The article was about the bombing that occurred in Dresden, Germany during World War II. It does a really good job of explaining the context in which the attack happened. It also has a section dedicated to talking about the aftermath of the bombing. Throughout the book, the author and the main character mention the bombing in Dresden many times. Ultimately, Dresden is where the main character finds himself imprisoned at Slaughterhouse Five, and he winds up surviving the attack. This directly correlates to the New Historicist lens because Kurt Vonnegut survived the Dresden bombing as a prisoner of war. Likely, he included the Dresden bombing in his book as a way to interpret the traumatic event that happened to him.

The article was about how the concentration camps worked as mentioned in the title. Starting off with these two French women mentioning the large trucks filled with dead bodies. It scarred them, saying that “If one day someone makes a film they must film this scene. This night. This moment.” Later on in the article, it mentioned that there was a child's room. That room was for women who were going into the camps pregnant, they were forced to be apart from their baby, that baby would then be placed into the room to starve to death or eaten alive by rats. The camps were grotesque and powerful for those not in the camps. It shows Hitler's rule over the people. It provides more insight into the novel and the lens chosen due to the fact that the prison camps are mentioned a bit within the books. Mentioned in the beginning and when readers were told Billy had gotten captured pretty young. Kurt Vonnegut was also captured pretty young by the Germans after he was drafted into the war. 

The Children's Crusade was known as a movement where 20000 child soldiers who were assigned to fight when there was a greater chance of losing the war than winning with many survivors. Many of these children made it back home but a majority of them ended up captured and being sold into slavery. this was a fight fought in 1212 c.e, but it has relevance when speaking of our book " Slaughterhouse Five" where many of our characters have fought in the second world war.  Billy who is one of our main characters is captured as he is fighting. He and those he fighting are only 16 to 18. Still children in our time.

Pols, Hans, and Stephanie Oak., "WAR & Military Mental Health." AM J Public Health. (2007). PMC: U.S. National Library of Medicine, National Institutes of Health. Web. 7 Jan 2019.
This article was an informative position article of sorts written by two U.S. government doctors researching WWII PTSD, especially during the 20th century. It mainly spoke of how psychiatrists during this era treated the soldiers before deployment and after discharge. This article felt that the treatments available now were inadequate for treating war inflicted PTSD on the before, during, and after the war. This article provided more insight into my novel and lens because the book itself is mainly about veteran suffering from PTSD and how his life was affected by it in a very roundabout way. Nevertheless, this book creates some inside on the historical background on how WWII soldiers were being treated during that time.

Comments (15)

Ashley De La Cruz (Student 2019)
Ashley De La Cruz
  1. They use the new historicist lens to define how the fact that the book is anti-war it wants to show the opposite side of that, wish you would've defined it a bit more.
  2. I really liked that the conversation went smoothly, and everyone was invited to talk, so there were multiple questions and themes brought up.
Carolina Ortiz-Lugo (Student 2019)
Carolina Ortiz-Lugo
  1. The New Historicist lens is used by the group to show the way that the author basically puts himself in the story and the way that it's almost a recreation of his experience. Additionally, they connect the events in the book to real life events.
  2. I liked the way that they made a lot of connection to the lens and explained things in depth
Salsabeel Elbakhadaoui (Student 2019)
Salsabeel Elbakhadaoui

I think you all did an amazing job with the New Historicist lens and connecting the events of the story to the past events when identifying symbolism in the book or just what happened. I really enjoyed the music it kept me tuned in

Brendan Hall (Student 2019)
Brendan Hall

They use their lens by describing how the author is living his past experiences through the character Billy. Production wise I thought the intro music was really good.

Rebecca Snyder (Student 2019)
Rebecca Snyder

They did a good job of using the lens to connect to the author's own experiences and the reasons he may have written it. They also did a good job of connecting themes to the time period the novel was about, as well as the time period the novel was written in. The conversation flowed very well and they did a good job connecting to each others points.

Meymey Seng (Student 2019)
Meymey Seng
  1. They were able to use the New Historicist lens by saying that he was able to figure out his emotions putting himself in another character talking about past events that has happened since it can be difficult to tell it through a first-person view.
  2. Something I enjoyed is that fact that questions were asked about why things were the way that they were in the book, presenting room for conversations and ideas from the other podcast members.
Eli Zimmerman (Student 2019)
Eli Zimmerman

You used the new historicist lens to break down the text and look into the deeper meaning and symbolism, which I was a big fan of. I also really like your cover art, it's a really sweet drawing.

Sofia Powers (Student 2019)
Sofia Powers

Literary lens: New Historicism was used to explain the autobiographical connections to the author and relate the text to Nazi Germany. The flow of the conversation was smooth and I liked the music in the intro and outro.

Sean Johnson (Student 2019)
Sean Johnson

Ya'll go right into it, which is nice and to the point. The lens was a bit confusing to get a grasp on but it was ok. I liked the point of conversation and the comparisons that you all made between characters and with our own modern world

Production was trash tho.

NAh im jK

Brendan Barnes (Student 2019)
Brendan Barnes

You guys should have explained the New Historicist lens a little bit more before jumping straight in, but it still came out fine so it's whatever. The conversation felt real so it kept me listening actively. It felt like every group member was actually prepared to talk instead of being forced just to get a higher grade.

Jason Chen (Student 2019)
Jason Chen

Interesting how you guys start this off with a new name. The New Historical Lens is used when this group makes connections with the term Nazi, and how people dress and act. These references were used to talk about Kurt Vonnegut's role in this story. Mat talks about how it was in the middle of the Vietnam War, and how the whole book is based around this "anti-war" idea. Overall I like how this podcast flow, it feels like I'm listening to a good conversation.

Tylier Driscoll (Student 2019)
Tylier Driscoll

They use the New Historicist lens by talking about the author's personal experience and the main character, Billy. They speak about the similarities between the two bombings that Billy and Vonnegut go through. Then they diverge into why he may have done that, possibly because it was safer for him to tell his story or maybe because he wanted to be relatable. They changed the name of the podcast and I think it fits well. The intro music is nice and fits the tone of the podcast pretty well. I liked how group bounced off of each other and fed off of each other's points.

Colin Taylor-McGrane (Student 2019)
Colin Taylor-McGrane

I believe that while you definitely used the New Historicist lens, there was little to no explanation of what exactly the lens is. I also feel that your podcast could have benefited from some explanation of what exactly was happening in the book in the section that you read. With that said, I do appreciate how you went out of your way to create a podcast with a unique style.

Sarah Berg (Student 2019)
Sarah Berg

How do they use the literary lens? - New Historicist (wish they explained more at the beginning about what the lens is and what questions it raises in terms of the book) - talk about Kurt Vonnegut's involvement with the story - how he tells his own story through the character of Billy and that although it was written at a later date, it reflects on the events of World War II. - Give the context that the book was written during the Vietnam War, the book acts as an antiwar statement, and the sense of nationalism from supporters of the Vietnam War was reflected in a character in the book

What did you like about the production of the podcast? - I like the intro music a lot - conversation flow felt very natural and not forced, they build on each other's points a lot with additional evidence and thoughts